Dropped the Sy off for tunning and...

[R&C_RallySyTy]

So the first step with my new Sy project is in place. Today I dropped it off at a performance shop for a road tune. The tuner said no problem hitting 500hp. I also want him to set up my alky injection system. It is installed but I never used it because I thought it should be tuned. The truck has ran 11.7 untuned @ 15psi. Were going to try for 20psi on pump gas for the road tune. It also only shifts 5200 rpms. I'm sure it could be taken to 6000 rpms but I'm not sure. Here is a mod list, and please give me tips if you could. One of my main questions would be, can I run more then 20psi with the alky spray. What would be pushing to much? Once it has been road tuned, we will go to the dyno and see what kind of #s she really makes. I'm not much of a numbers guy, I just want to run low 11s and be happy. Also going to have him look over everything and make any changes that would make it stronger/safer and to make sure everything is in perfect running order. Let me know what you guys think...thanks.

Race Prepped Short Block:
Block bored on precison stand & 2 step torque plate honed
Speed Pro "Plasma" moly piston rings; file fit
Diamond Custom 2618 Forged Custom Pistons
Eagle H beam connecting rods
Federal Mogul Super Duty Alloy Main and Rod Bearings
Federal Mogul cam bearings
Speed Pro double roller timing set
Comp Cams custom grind Xtreme Energy hydaulic roller camshaft
Comp Cams Magnum hydaulic roller lifters
Comp Cams valve springs
Pro Gram Engineering splayed bolt, 4 bolt center caps, convert to 4 bolt main bearing splayed bolt block
ARP coonecting rod bolts, main studs
Degree in cam
Hot Tank block, heads, misc., install new core plugs
Precison ground crankshaft, nitrate treated
Balancing rotating assembly
Align bore main saddles
HD oil pump w/HD driveshaft
Engine Gasket set (includes "GM" head and intake gaskets specific to the Syclone/Typhoon)

Heads and Valve Train:

Brodix cylinder heads (Manley pushrod guide plates and screw in studs)
Bowl and Chamber port work
Full competition port work
HD vavle springs matched to camshaft
Comp Cams Magnum Roller tip rocker arm kit, 1.6:1 ratio
ARP head studs
Cylinder head resurfaced
Engine Professionally assembled


Transmission Rebuild
Rebuild Custom Supplied 700R4
Syclone/Typhoon to Street and Strip
Specs for use with lock-up Torq Converter

Persicion Industires 9.5 L/U Torq Converter
Hi-Pro trans Upgrade
Includes billet servos, wide band, beast sunshell? Racing 3-4 Clutch pack, servo CK vavle?
5 pinion planets Front and Rear

Rebuild Transfer Case
Includes new front career, input shaft, planet and chain
Corvette Governor (5200 rpm shift)

Other Stuff
Set of 50lb Fuel injectors
3 bar map sensor
O2 sensor 3wire
wastegate kit
2end Alky nozzle kit
plugs 3 sets
Exhaust band clamp
EGR block off plate
FAST fuel injection mangement system
fuel injection wire harness
EST Spark Module
Engine Mounts

Upgraded Turbo and Other Stuff
TE45A
66 intake wheel
.63 Prescion exhaust
Hi Torq Starter
Custom Built Stainless headers
Race gate Downpipe
Turbonetics Racegate wastegate

 

[The Devils Own Chariot]

Re: Dropped the Sy off for tunning and...

If I had $20,000 just burning a hole in my pocket I would be doing the same thing you are.

 

[R&C_RallySyTy]

Re: Dropped the Sy off for tunning and...

If I had $20,000 just burning a hole in my pocket I would be doing the same thing you are.

Dude, I wish I had that kind of money. The honest truth is, I stole this truck. 10 grand cash out the door. I still can't believe it, and I'm still waiting for my tuner to tell me it there is something majorly wrong. It runs fine, doesn't smoke. No bad sounds either, other then maybe a exhaust leak. :tup:

I promised pics here soon, the weather has been shitty. Rain for 20mins, sunshine, rain bleh bleh. :tdown:

 

[The Devils Own Chariot]

Re: Dropped the Sy off for tunning and...

I was talking to a bud of mine today. The price of any old sports vehicle is really down. He was at an auction and nice 70's vettes were only going for 8 grand. I paid 12k for my sy 2 years ago. I bet I cant get that now.

 

[NecroWolf]

Re: Dropped the Sy off for tunning and...

i'm not an expert but i'm pretty sure you'll run out of injector before you'll run out of motor if the cam is matched to those heads even with the alky. and you might look at the turbo i think you'll be maxxing it out pretty quick too. i think that might be your boost limiter.

 

[R&C_RallySyTy]

Re: Dropped the Sy off for tunning and...

i'm not an expert but i'm pretty sure you'll run out of injector before you'll run out of motor if the cam is matched to those heads even with the alky. and you might look at the turbo i think you'll be maxxing it out pretty quick too. i think that might be your boost limiter.

Only time will tell, can't wait to hear the verdict...

 

[1madgumby]

Re: Dropped the Sy off for tunning and...

6,000 rpm is way to high.stock shift points are 4,200. With A cam & other work 4,800 4,900 rpm. should be max. Need bigger injectors & A larger fuel pump if you want to go for A higher rpm. need to get A custom chip burnt for the truck or go to A stand alone system (FAST or BS3) just my .02 will be happy'er in the end & the truck will stay together, trust me pulling the motor out sucks!!!

Aj.

 

[cloneman315]

Re: Dropped the Sy off for tunning and...

i think mine shifts someplace in the low to mid 5000 range also,just make sure the tunner knows these trucks or you might be in trouble,good luck great deal.

 

[Aeroking]

Re: Dropped the Sy off for tunning and...

i agree as above. bigger injectors, bigger turbo

i didnt see the stall of the torque converter.

i'd find what your powerband is with the cam. and size your turbo & converter together to match your cam.

 

[Jimmy]

Re: Dropped the Sy off for tunning and...

just make sure the tunner knows these trucks or you might be in trouble.

X a billion.

 

[R&C_RallySyTy]

Re: Dropped the Sy off for tunning and...

6,000 rpm is way to high.stock shift points are 4,200. With A cam & other work 4,800 4,900 rpm. should be max. Need bigger injectors & A larger fuel pump if you want to go for A higher rpm. need to get A custom chip burnt for the truck or go to A stand alone system (FAST or BS3) just my .02 will be happy'er in the end & the truck will stay together, trust me pulling the motor out sucks!!!

Aj.

I do have the FAST system. It also does have a after market electric fuel pump. As for rpms, that seems insanly low to me. Then again I come from a different type of built vehicle.

As for the tuner, he is very smart. Chris (From Red Shift Motorsports) is well known here in PA. As for knowing a lot about Syclones, I don't think that is his thing. He has promised to do all the research before even tackling anything. He always gets a game plan for a project, and then call his customer and talks to them about exactly what he wants to do, how much it will cost. He always gives feedback daily, and asks questions. He also answers questions you have, and if he does not know the answer, he finds the answer.

 

[cloneman315]

Re: Dropped the Sy off for tunning and...

you might want to look up harry anderson,isnt he up that way,?if not best of luck,

 

[R&C_RallySyTy]

Re: Dropped the Sy off for tunning and...

you might want to look up harry anderson,isnt he up that way,?if not best of luck,

I never heard of him, but I will check into that name. Anyone else know Harry?

 

[bezerk]

Re: Dropped the Sy off for tunning and...

really hope this works out for you. i wouldn't let some kind of tuning guy tuning my truck, if he doesn't knw these.
a friend of mine brought his (clean stock sy 20k miles) too a dyno, and asked for a tune..20min later he needed a new engine.

 

[mattw]

Re: Dropped the Sy off for tunning and...

Where are you at? I looked up Red Sport Motorsports and it looks like they are in Dallas. I live in Williamsport but my job takes me to Dallas a few times a month.


-Matt

 

[cloneman315]

Re: Dropped the Sy off for tunning and...

harry is very good and i think he is in that area

 

[ed hess]

Re: Dropped the Sy off for tunning and...

I never heard of him, but I will check into that name. Anyone else know Harry?

harry Who?

nope never heard of em.... lol











Harry Anderson is responsible for my whole truck's performance and harry knows and fully understands the combinations.

ed

 

[Ty0279]

Re: Dropped the Sy off for tunning and...

As for knowing a lot about Syclones, I don't think that is his thing.

 

[NecroWolf]

Re: Dropped the Sy off for tunning and...

i'm curious what makes tuning these trucks a challenge once you switch to an aftermarket engine mangemet system? i can understand special knowledge when using a stock ecm but i would think a fast ran turbo motor is just that

 

[R&C_RallySyTy]

Re: Dropped the Sy off for tunning and...

really hope this works out for you. i wouldn't let some kind of tuning guy tuning my truck, if he doesn't knw these.
a friend of mine brought his (clean stock sy 20k miles) too a dyno, and asked for a tune..20min later he needed a new engine.

That story scares me. It has been untuned for over a year from the prev. owner. Like I said, I hear no knock and it never smokes. I'm new but I do know that just because it looks like it is running good does not mean it is.

The thing that sucks is, it took me about an hour and 45min to get to Dallas, PA. To have to drive there, pick it up and take it somewhere else would waste more money. However, I do want it done right.