EGR delete...high iats?

Ryda85

Senior Member
my iats are in the 200-250 range after a bunch of basic mods. these us retarded high. i felt the intercooler and its nice and cold, but put my hand on the plenum and it was burning hot. would this have something to do with an egr blockoff plate? and removing the egr solenoid with vacuum lines?.

i need help asap...thanks in advance
 

Ryda85

Senior Member
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ttt please...dont want to drive the truck like this
 

DynaGlide

Ton-Eighty
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I wouldn't think that removing the EGR would increase your intake temps. It is my impression that the EGR recirculates inert exhaust gases back through your engine. Also, I think the EGR only activates at highway cruising conditions.
 

Ryda85

Senior Member
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then why are my iats all of a sudden over 200 and you can fry an egg on the plenum
 

MRKING

New Parts for Old Trucks
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The egr being blocked off still allows the upper intake manifold to get hot . To help that out a little more you can block off the lower intake manifold egr passage .
 

cloneman315

Active member
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u may have a intercooler pump etc going bad or is already bad
 

jwaller

Evil Genius/SyTy Guru
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you have somehow removed the EGR and allowed egr gas to port directly into the intake. I bet your idle has also gone to crap as well. rethink the way your blockoff plate or gasket sits and acts and I bet you need to look at it again
 

Ryda85

Senior Member
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jwaller said:
you have somehow removed the EGR and allowed egr gas to port directly into the intake. I bet your idle has also gone to crap as well. rethink the way your blockoff plate or gasket sits and acts and I bet you need to look at it again



yes the idle absoluty sucks now...so what specifically should i look for
 

Ryda85

Senior Member
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wow im an idiot....just figured out what it is and its not worth mentioning....will go out to the truck tomorrow morning and fix the problem
 

SY2932

Administrator
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MRKING said:
The egr being blocked off still allows the upper intake manifold to get hot . To help that out a little more you can block off the lower intake manifold egr passage .

Yup:
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"3/8 X 18 NPT brass plug to be staked in place to prevent exhaust gas from ever entering upper intake."

If your intercooler isn't up to par, that WILL contribute to high IAT temperatures. As far as exhaust gas getting back into the intake, the gasket that goes under the block off plate would have to have a piece missing that seperates the two ports...
 

QUICK STORM

B.A.M.F. BMW Tech
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Ryda85 said:
wow im an idiot....just figured out what it is and its not worth mentioning....will go out to the truck tomorrow morning and fix the problem

its still good to pist your find as it may help another board member, if they have the same problem
 

Flyin Ryan

hated cuz he drives fords
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Ryda85 said:
wow im an idiot....just figured out what it is and its not worth mentioning....will go out to the truck tomorrow morning and fix the problem


So what was the problem?
 

SY2932

Administrator
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Ryda85 said:
wow im an idiot....just figured out what it is and its not worth mentioning....will go out to the truck tomorrow morning and fix the problem

My $ is on removing something that wasn't what you thought it was...
 

Loeryder

New member
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SY2932 said:
Yup:
"3/8 X 18 NPT brass plug to be staked in place to prevent exhaust gas from ever entering upper intake."

If your intercooler isn't up to par, that WILL contribute to high IAT temperatures. As far as exhaust gas getting back into the intake, the gasket that goes under the block off plate would have to have a piece missing that seperates the two ports...
how are you going to "stake" that plug?
JB weld would keep it from backing out as well, eh?

Looks like a great idea to keep the exhaust gases out of the upper altogether.

I plan on doing this on my ported upper, just want to make sure I do it once and do it right. :tup:
 

nallj92

Active member
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Loeryder said:
how are you going to "stake" that plug?
JB weld would keep it from backing out as well, eh?

Looks like a great idea to keep the exhaust gases out of the upper altogether.

I plan on doing this on my ported upper, just want to make sure I do it once and do it right. :tup:

i just tapped mine with npt threads and screwed it in
 

SY2932

Administrator
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Loeryder said:
how are you going to "stake" that plug?
JB weld would keep it from backing out as well, eh?

Looks like a great idea to keep the exhaust gases out of the upper altogether.

I plan on doing this on my ported upper, just want to make sure I do it once and do it right. :tup:

The plug gets "staked" by tightening it just below flush. Then a 1/8th inch roll punch is used in conjunction with a hammer to deform the aluminum over the perimeter of the plug in two or three places keeping it in place. I haven't done it yet because I keep forgetting to grab my 1/8th inch roll pin punch from work :roll: . Being that I have a "stealth" block off plate now, I can't run a gasket under the block off plate...

I wanted a solid mechanical method to keep the port sealed up. JB Weld or the like seemed like a bad idea since anything that could become brittle from the high heat would eventually find it's way into the motor... The same holds true for any threadlocker too, plug loosens up, backs out and finds it's way into the motor. I though about getting it welded shut but that would have warped the sealing surface. If I was to go that route, I wouldn't have any qualms about doing it to the lower intake since there is much more material there to dissipate the heat.
 

nallj92

Active member
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dont remember #'s but found a plug size of hole and tapped with corresponding thread, 3/8 sounds about right but whatever fits, fits.
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QUICK STORM said:
did you tap them with the 3/8 x 18 npt?
 

QUICK STORM

B.A.M.F. BMW Tech
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nallj92 said:
dont remember #'s but found a plug size of hole and tapped with corresponding thread, 3/8 sounds about right but whatever fits, fits.
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well, just got done doing this mod
 

LandryPoole

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If you just disconnect the vaccum lines that operate the egr and block them off, does this leave the egr valve closed or open? Does it then act like a block off plate or not? J/C
 
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