wheels
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Re: For all you wing haters
Gotcha, i was reading it wrong, Love the truck:tup:
Gotcha, i was reading it wrong, Love the truck:tup:
For all you wing haters
- Thread starter HighPerformanceTrucks
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autoaddictions
Active member
Re: For all you wing haters
I love it Adam. Id really like to drive that biotch!!
I love it Adam. Id really like to drive that biotch!!
MRKING
New Parts for Old Trucks
Re: For all you wing haters
I honestly have been contemplating a rear mounted radiator setup and love the look you of yours . What you wrote about the extra rear lift has made me examine the topic closer . I deffinately do not want to put a wing on my truck and hope more than just the bed mounted radiator caused this .
Would you say the radiator ducting alone is at fault , or is it possible that the way your bed is setup with the panels and wide bed sides they may have contributed as well ?
Thank you .
I honestly have been contemplating a rear mounted radiator setup and love the look you of yours . What you wrote about the extra rear lift has made me examine the topic closer . I deffinately do not want to put a wing on my truck and hope more than just the bed mounted radiator caused this .
Would you say the radiator ducting alone is at fault , or is it possible that the way your bed is setup with the panels and wide bed sides they may have contributed as well ?
Thank you .
HighPerformanceTrucks
Lift & Shift Specialist
HighPerformanceTrucks
Lift & Shift Specialist
Re: For all you wing haters
Thanks again for taking the time to answer my questions about the Big Stuff 3. I got BS3's tuning wizard Don Bailey to fly out next week to tune for 2 straight days.
Thanks again for taking the time to answer my questions about the Big Stuff 3. I got BS3's tuning wizard Don Bailey to fly out next week to tune for 2 straight days.
HighPerformanceTrucks
Lift & Shift Specialist
Re: For all you wing haters
Nathan McBride is also an aerodynamics expert and said pickup trucks in general are notorious for creating uplift. The fact I have this huge duct in the back increases the uplift even more. He said he wasn't too concerned about rear end instability during straight line acceleration rather high speed cornering over 100 mph. The benefits of our rear mounted radiator far out weigh the disadvantages from both a weight distribution and cooling standpoint. Once the front end splitter, hood vents and openings in rear of front fenders have been completed the truck will be sucked to the tarmac even further. We set the ride height up with a slight rake to further aid in high speed stability.
Nathan McBride is also an aerodynamics expert and said pickup trucks in general are notorious for creating uplift. The fact I have this huge duct in the back increases the uplift even more. He said he wasn't too concerned about rear end instability during straight line acceleration rather high speed cornering over 100 mph. The benefits of our rear mounted radiator far out weigh the disadvantages from both a weight distribution and cooling standpoint. Once the front end splitter, hood vents and openings in rear of front fenders have been completed the truck will be sucked to the tarmac even further. We set the ride height up with a slight rake to further aid in high speed stability.
JSM
Active member
Re: For all you wing haters
Truck is looking good Adam. Keep us updated on pics and progress.
For everybody else here is the problem we face, syclone owners a bit more than ty owners. This isn't the first time we have seen a wing bolted on a syclone and I know in both cases the wing wasn't selected due to looks.
Anybody notice anything similar going on?
In adams case he made things somewhat worse as he mentioned with the radiator, letting air flow even faster across the top.
2 ways to stop it, add downforce from above, or stop air from getting underneath the truck, sounds like Adam has some great people helping him out and they are doing both.
I read an article somewhere (wish I knew where now, here is similar http://www.symscape.com/blog/secrets_of_diffusers) where a guy in racing constructed the underside of his car to be a big venturi.
The front let air in and it narrowed in the middle and got bigger at the back, all while conforming to some racing rules. His first test drive the car actually sucked down so hard the suspension bottomed out.
Back to your regular program. :tup::tup:
And Adam get us some more overall shots of the truck. Your almost as bad as a women teasing you at the bar, or Marty with syborg.
Truck is looking good Adam. Keep us updated on pics and progress.
For everybody else here is the problem we face, syclone owners a bit more than ty owners. This isn't the first time we have seen a wing bolted on a syclone and I know in both cases the wing wasn't selected due to looks.
Anybody notice anything similar going on?
In adams case he made things somewhat worse as he mentioned with the radiator, letting air flow even faster across the top.
2 ways to stop it, add downforce from above, or stop air from getting underneath the truck, sounds like Adam has some great people helping him out and they are doing both.
I read an article somewhere (wish I knew where now, here is similar http://www.symscape.com/blog/secrets_of_diffusers) where a guy in racing constructed the underside of his car to be a big venturi.
The front let air in and it narrowed in the middle and got bigger at the back, all while conforming to some racing rules. His first test drive the car actually sucked down so hard the suspension bottomed out.
Back to your regular program. :tup::tup:
And Adam get us some more overall shots of the truck. Your almost as bad as a women teasing you at the bar, or Marty with syborg.
HighPerformanceTrucks
Lift & Shift Specialist
Re: For all you wing haters
All we know this truck is going to haul ass in more than just a straight line.
All we know this truck is going to haul ass in more than just a straight line.
WyoSyclone
Active member
Re: For all you wing haters
Not trying to be an armchair designer on your wing, but just concerned with your safety...
Does the upper/forward mounting bolt have enough meat around the bolt hole opening in the lower bracket? We all know how metal fatigue can quickly crack an area such as that. Just don't want to see you on your head!
Can't wait to see some video from your races!
Not trying to be an armchair designer on your wing, but just concerned with your safety...
Does the upper/forward mounting bolt have enough meat around the bolt hole opening in the lower bracket? We all know how metal fatigue can quickly crack an area such as that. Just don't want to see you on your head!
Can't wait to see some video from your races!
HighPerformanceTrucks
Lift & Shift Specialist
Re: For all you wing haters
The same wing including mounting brackets has been used on cars doing over 200 mph at the Rolex 24 Hrs. The wing is dry carbon cured in an autoclave made to the highest standards. The mounting bracket that bolts to the uprights are made from T6061 aircraft aluminum, bolted to spherical bearings in the uprights with aircraft quality fasteners. The aluminum uprights have undergone finite element analysis to ensure integrity.
The same wing including mounting brackets has been used on cars doing over 200 mph at the Rolex 24 Hrs. The wing is dry carbon cured in an autoclave made to the highest standards. The mounting bracket that bolts to the uprights are made from T6061 aircraft aluminum, bolted to spherical bearings in the uprights with aircraft quality fasteners. The aluminum uprights have undergone finite element analysis to ensure integrity.
Not trying to be an armchair designer on your wing, but just concerned with your safety...
Does the upper/forward mounting bolt have enough meat around the bolt hole opening in the lower bracket? We all know how metal fatigue can quickly crack an area such as that. Just don't want to see you on your head!
Can't wait to see some video from your races!
WyoSyclone
Active member
Re: For all you wing haters
That should do it Just couldn't quite make out the detail in the pics.
That should do it
Just couldn't quite make out the detail in the pics.
ziembic
Donating Member
professor_speed
New member
Re: For all you wing haters
not in English but you can see a wing cut about 2 seconds of the lap time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6_MUycoPPs&feature=player_embedded
not in English but you can see a wing cut about 2 seconds of the lap time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6_MUycoPPs&feature=player_embedded
Houseofperformance
switchhappy!!!
Re: For all you wing haters
i´m realy tempted to cover the sy belly with aluminium panels and add something like this - this diffusor should produce plenty of downforce
i´m realy tempted to cover the sy belly with aluminium panels and add something like this - this diffusor should produce plenty of downforce