Help on cam

Syclonic

New member
I need some help on cam choice. Is the comp cam #09-422-8 any good? Specs are 215-220@.050 and .500int .510ex with 114 lobe sep. Will the 114 be to much?

Thanks
Chris SY#429
 

jwaller

Evil Genius/SyTy Guru
this is the cam BG reccommends...I like the 9-412-8...these two are almost too close to call but I have used the 412 in 5 motors now all with excellent results
 

jwaller

Evil Genius/SyTy Guru
the 9-412-8 has .500 int and ex
the 9-422-8 has .500 int and 515 ex..the 412 has a little less duration so it;s easier to chip for as well.
 
john, were these motors stock ecu?
or dfi/etc?
i am thinking about this cam, too, for an upcoming motor - i like the wide lda as i expect it'll make good vacuum, keeping the speed density moron happy...
how'd they idle/drive?
torque converter?
noted powerband and shift point?
thanks
mike
ps - get your cche yet?
 

TurboTony

Active member
I used the 9-412-8 in my motor.
My truck still has the stock ecm, but I am also running 009(42.5lb) injectors,and 1.6 rockers, so a custom chip was a requirement.

I can tell you that it pulls good vacuum,around 14-15 inches.

It took a little while to get the driveabilty perfect, but Nolan had it really nice by the 12th chip or so. I think we ended the year at #19.

The larger cam really worked nice once I got the shift points up to 5200. Pulled all the way there.

In my opinion its still a small cam, but light years above the stocker.

HTH

TurboTony
 

smeagol

Active member
The 422 worked out nicely for me. I spun the motor to about 5500 for shifts, all the way to 5700 thru the traps. The fastest runs (not sure if coincidence or not) had the 2-3 shift at 5300 or so.

I think either of those cams will work. McCoy is using a 212 cam (I think) that felt very nice as well. It all depends what you want.. a bit more out of a driver, or a max effort truck. Any cam is going to require some tuning work, how much depends on what you pick, and what ECM you use.
 

jwaller

Evil Genius/SyTy Guru
I have only used stock ECM to this point with BG supplied 50# chips...pulls awesome and stock motor doesnt need this much RPM IMO...if your using this cam you need to swap heads anyway BC your have to use different springs as well.....
 

smeagol

Active member
My motor had a stock block, stock crank, 2 bolt mains studded with straps, L35 rods & TRW pistons. The motor got yanked cuz the oil pump pickup fell out and lost oil pressure. Bearings were toast.

I don't advise spinning the motor that high unless you do a buildup with 4 bolt mains, Eagle (or better rods), forged pistons, and a good flowing heads & cam combo.

These motors are grunt motors, but to make them fast, you have to build them to make more HP. IMO, the next step past a stronger stock rebuild is one with better (not crazy) flowing Vortec heads, mild cam (412/422 style) and spin it to 5300-5500 or so (with the rest of the airflow mods). I spun mine high because I felt a 3-4 shift at that point would do one of 2 things 1)break the trans 2) slow me down.

I spun the motor to 6100rpm on one run where I forgot to lock the converter. 11.2 @ 120

Locked the converter, gained 2-4 mph, and .1 faster I believe (that day), and brought the RPM down 4-500rpm thru the traps.

It's nice to have detailed logs of your runs :wink:
 

smeagol

Active member
TE63 with .82AR housing at ~21psi.

I was making 11.1-11.2 passes on 93 octane with alcohol. On my fastest pass, I added a splash of 116 (like 3-4 gallons on a tank that had more than 1/2 full) because I thought I was getting some knock.
 

FLSY2730

New member
that is great brian did you always use the stock wheels on those passes and how were the sixty foot times, i dont know if anyone else here is running lighter wheels but the diff. is awesome i am not even putting the cal tracks on it will just add more wieght , i was spinning the stock wheel and drag radial at the track pretty bad but not any more i cant even get them to spin on the street. i have some pics of the truck if anyone wants to post them i dont know how. jack
 

smeagol

Active member
No, I was always running ROH wheels, with 245 Nittos all around. Best 60 was 1.62, typical 60s were 1.6-1.7s.

I believe the weight was similar to stock.

My belief is that a 315/35/17 rear and 275/40/17 front will give best traction when used with a solid suspension & good tires.
 

UNIsackV6

Member
On 2002-01-24 12:30, mr.sparkle wrote:
No, I was always running ROH wheels, with 245 Nittos all around. Best 60 was 1.62, typical 60s were 1.6-1.7s.

I believe the weight was similar to stock.

My belief is that a 315/35/17 rear and 275/40/17 front will give best traction when used with a solid suspension & good tires.

Mr. Sparkle needs another Syclone!!! Anyone want a nice TTA? :cool:
 
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