How much vacuum are you all pulling at idle?

Irid

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I moved my boost pickup point on the intake today because I suspected that it was getting errant readings from the place I had previously tapped in (down at the bottom of the intake, near an intake runner). I swapped it to a T in the brake booster hose.

My truck runs decently well, has a normal idle, but only pulls 10-11 PSI at idle, which seems low to me. What is everyone else pulling?

If it is indeed low, what would cause that? Bad sensor, worn ____, ? There aren't any leaks, I know that for sure ;-)
 

Syclone2163

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The last i checked i was running around 20 vac at idle with a max of around 26 while driving. Also, my vac harness was replaced about three months ago and has no leaks.
 

Irid

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ok then WTF would it read so low on my truck? I don't have a big cam or anything weird, and the truck runs fine. I wonder if my boost sensor is hosed (it reads fine the other way, so that seems odd)
 

Hu Ryde

Donating Member
You may have a bad or stuck IAC valve. A good way to see if anyone has a vac leak is get a bike tube and cut it 2 times with the air valve about 4 inches on each side. Un hook the turbo / ic piping and hook one end of bike tube to it. Clamp or glue the other end vlosed so no air comes out. After that fill the tube with air and listen for leakes. I found a big leak in the valve cover area under the IC. Lower intake mainfold gasket to head was shot. HTH
 

Irid

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It's a SPA Dual Boost/Temp gauge. Should be dead nuts accurate.

If I had a stuck IAC valve, wouldn't my idle be all over hell? The counts track right to the commanded values in Diacom...
 

Hu Ryde

Donating Member
True, but it may be sticking, not completely stuck. What does it say your IAC is at idle and running? How sure are you of a vac leak? Have you tried the bike tire trick? I thought I was 100% sure and found that it was a bad gasket that was leaking not a vac line.
 

Mephisto

These trucks are cursed
my stock gauge reads about 10-12psi of vacuum at idle, it has since i bought the truck. i always thought that was normal. is it not?
 

hvychy

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mine is at 20 also but now I hear a loud hissssss under boost going to do the inner tube thing.
 

InvisiBill

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:eek: I have SPA's on my stock ty and it reads at best 9 and @ idle 6-7, no cam 135 cyl psi last i checked. on the new sy i just bought i thas a cam 218@.50 and it is 7-8 @ idle..... the stock chip. need new one... help... anyone.... both cars some times stumble off i dle and the ty has will fall on its face ..sometimes.. any info would greatly help.tanks in advance
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hvychy

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Found the source of the loud hissss. A vacuum cap right behind the TPS was the problem. It must of happened at the same time the engine blew of all of the big vacuum hoses at the same time. The cap looked like it exploded. but now I fixed the problem and now I am overboosting like crazy. spikeing to almost 30 lbs. I changed the dynomax and put flowmaster and it started after that. so I am going to try a boost controler and lower the boost a little. OR should I try adjusting the wastegate? any help will be cool. thanx
 

hvychy

New member
Found the source of the loud hissss. A vacuum cap right behind the TPS was the problem. It must of happened at the same time the engine blew of all of the big vacuum hoses at the same time. The cap looked like it exploded. but now I fixed the problem and now I am overboosting like crazy. spikeing to almost 30 lbs. I changed the dynomax and put flowmaster and it started after that. so I am going to try a boost controler and lower the boost a little. OR should I try adjusting the wastegate? any help will be cool. thanx
 

Hu Ryde

Donating Member
Wastegate Adjustment:

Shorten rod = increase boost
Lengthen rod = decrease boost

http://www.geocities.com/w_bowley/Green/boost2.html

Wastegate Arm Adjustments.

The wastegate arm (or wastegate rod) is the connection from the wastegate actuator to the wastegate lever itself. The wastegate lever itself is free moving, swinging freely. If it does not move freely (when disconnected from the wastegate rod) there is a problem, something impeding movement, and this needs o be fixed. Some stick intermittently, or only when HOT.

The wastegate actuator is spring loaded, clamping the wastegate closed when there is no boost source. When pressure is applied to the actuator, the actuator opens the wastegate. The rod's length can be adjusted, which means that the wastegate itself will have a different rate of bleeding of the exhaust depending on the adjustment. Good pictures and diagnostic tests are in the Syclone/Typhoon Service Supplement (on the CD Rom I believe).

The wastegate rod is connected to the wastegate lever. The lever has a pin, the rod slips on to it, and a retaining clip through the wastegate lever holds the arm/lever together. If you pull the pin, and slip the rod off the lever, the hole on the arm and the lever's pin should overlap slightly. In the manual it states to look for 1/2 overlap, so you'd have to pull the arm out of the actuator slightly (tight spring tension here) to connect the arm to the lever's pin. I believe the overlap spec has been updated so factory specs are now 7/8 overlap (basically a looser/longer rod setup). The arm's length can be adjusted as the rod end is threaded onto the rod. Tightening the end will shorten the wastegate, loosening lengthens it. If the rod is shorter, the wastegate is clamped more tightly shut. If the rod is longer, the wastegate is held loosely shut. If the rod is shorter, the actuator requires more boost pressure to open the wastegate the same distance as if it were adjusted longer. Result - more boost, faster spool up, as the wastegate is not opening quite as much, and not as quickly. The opposite goes if you lengthen the rod.

If you are using a feedback type of control (3 bar chip/aftermarket high performance controller) the adjustments won't have the same exact effect as it would on a non feedback type of control (ANS controller, bleeder valve, stock chip if you are running more than 15psi, as it cannot feedback control boost levels it cannot sense). On the non feedback controlled setups, adjusting your wastegate rod will adjust your boost level, and its response. On a feedback type of control, adjusting the rod will adjust the response more than the full boost level reached. It will affect the actual boost level, but it will usually take a more extreme response to do so, since your control system will take this change into account (with minor changes that is, but if you tighten TOO much, the wastegate may not be able to reach full open to bleed off enough pressure, not to mention what your wastegate can flow period). So you can dial in your wastegate rod to give you results closer to what you desire, as long as your system is working up to par. The actuator can also be out of spec, and there are full diagnostics for making sure it is working as it should.

Hope this helps
 

Irid

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ok, are your gauges calibrated in PSI on the positive side and Inches HG on the vacuum side? Could be just a brain bananna-in-the-tailpipe, as 20 Inches HG = ~10PSI. Duh.

So my 10-11 PSI vacuum reading would be right in the ballpark ;-)
 
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