I need some assistance.

[1BADSUV]

Please prove me wrong. I beleive stock to stock that a perfectly running 92'-93' GMC Typhoon on street tire's is faster in the 1/4 mile only than the 99'-03' Ford Lightning's. Most L owner's cannot even run mid 13's(documented) with their truck's and I know of several Ty's that have run 13.4-5's stock and some with lower 60 ft's could pull out a 13.3.
Most Lightning's have run 8.7-8.8's in the 1/8th here locally and that is slower than a stock Ty which can run 8.5's easily. I did see one time-slip of a Gen. II Lightning run a 13.2, but that is only one out of thousand's. No one in my area can prove me wrong at this time, so I need to be proven wrong here. Any documented time-slip's would be appreciated.

Thank's

 

[MyTyphoon1993]

Im gonna have to disagree here, most stock L's run 13.5's while stock Ty's run 14-13.8 with some exceptions some have ran 13.5 or lower but those are very few. Also it depends on the driver.

 

[1BADSUV]

Hi

Hi

Im gonna have to disagree here, most stock L's run 13.5's while stock Ty's run 14-13.8 with some exceptions some have ran 13.5 or lower but those are very few. Also it depends on the driver.

So on average a 13.5 for the Lightning and high 13's for the Ty. I ran high 13's on 15 psi with a 2.2 60 ft., my first time out 2 year's ago with my Ty. Several stock Ty owner's have Pm'd me with stating mid 13's with 1.8-1.9 60 ft's so 1.6-7's could net a lower ET. I do not know since my Ty already had a few mod's on it when purchased 2 year's ago.

Thank's

 

[sy112]

a stock ty running mid 13's is not the norm. L's can run mid 13's right out of the box, have seen it personally, not a single mod done, not even air filter. Joe ran 14.00000000001 at the Nats last year in a true bone stock Ty, I believe that is more along the lines of normal. But there are exceptions to every rule. :wink:

 

[1BADSUV]

Hi

Hi

a stock ty running mid 13's is not the norm. L's can run mid 13's right out of the box, have seen it personally, not a single mod done, not even air filter. Joe ran 14.00000000001 at the Nats last year in a true bone stock Ty, I believe that is more along the lines of normal. But there are exceptions to every rule. :wink:

I know of one 1992 Typhoon(19k miles's) in DE personally that ran a 13.58 /1.8 60 ft. /101 mph stock. I know of 2 other SyTy member's that have run similiar number's and could get it lower if they could pull a 1.7 60 ft. I researched several Lightning forum's and the concensus (time-slip's) is high 13's is the norm.

Thank's for the info.

 

[ALBERTAN]

Hehe. First off you need to stop stirring up shit at NLOC all the time.

Secondly, you are comparing vehicles 15 years apart in age so it's hard to do a fair comparison. If you had a time machine and could put a brand new Gen II and a new off the showroom Ty on the line together in 2004, my money would be on the Gen II in a close race. That's assuming a decent driver in the Gen II. In the eighth mile, I would suspect the Ty to win fairly easily. SyTy's are torque monsters and pull hard off the line, which is why most red light encounters are over before you get across the intersection. But as anyone who has driven a decently modded SyTy can attest, the stock setup runs out of oomph in a hurry. So I would expect the L to come around the Ty near the end of the race and win out by a small margin as the Lightning does not lay down on the top end like a stock SyTy.

Thirdly, see my first point.

 

[1BADSUV]

Hi

Hi

Hehe, you caught me, it's only the Gen. I Lightning owner's that are giving me sh$t, no one else. Just wanted documented proof, not hear-say.

I promise to leave the Lightning owner's alone on-line, but not on the street or the track. Deal.

Hehe. First off you need to stop stirring up shit at NLOC all the time.

Secondly, you are comparing vehicles 15 years apart in age so it's hard to do a fair comparison. If you had a time machine and could put a brand new Gen II and a new off the showroom Ty on the line together in 2004, my money would be on the Gen II in a close race. That's assuming a decent driver in the Gen II. In the eighth mile, I would suspect the Ty to win fairly easily. SyTy's are torque monsters and pull hard off the line, which is why most red light encounters are over before you get across the intersection. But as anyone who has driven a decently modded SyTy can attest, the stock setup runs out of oomph in a hurry. So I would expect the L to come around the Ty near the end of the race and win out by a small margin as the Lightning does not lay down on the top end like a stock SyTy.

Thirdly, see my first point.

 

[Mad Mike]

Re: I need some assistance.

Please prove me wrong. I beleive stock to stock that a perfectly running 92'-93' GMC Typhoon on street tire's is faster in the 1/4 mile only than the 99'-03' Ford Lightning's. Most L owner's cannot even run mid 13's(documented) with their truck's and I know of several Ty's that have run 13.4-5's stock and some with lower 60 ft's could pull out a 13.3.
Most Lightning's have run 8.7-8.8's in the 1/8th here locally and that is slower than a stock Ty which can run 8.5's easily. I did see one time-slip of a Gen. II Lightning run a 13.2, but that is only one out of thousand's. No one in my area can prove me wrong at this time, so I need to be proven wrong here. Any documented time-slip's would be appreciated.

Thank's

These times are more realistic for a syclone not a typhoon. But I'll give you a tip, don't waste your breath over there @NLOC. No matter what you say to them the almighty L can't be touched by anything and they don't consider syclones to be real trucks anyway.

 

[J_SULLIVAN]

you are comparing vehicles 15 years apart in age

Age is a bitch. I wish GM would do something real and that SS Silverado is not a high performance truck! If anyone on here has one, I'm sorry to get underneath you, but its just a joke IMO...

 

[1BADSUV]

Hi

Hi

I get tired of seeing these stories on-line when it probably wasn't true. Every single Lightning I have come across has seen my tail-light's, but I am not stock and I know there are fast one's. I love NLOC, I forgot about that site for awhile, after the last 10 page discussion last year I posted on. Talked with several L owner's locally and they were cool, loved the Ty, did not want prove anything with me, just wanted to talk truck's. The concensus is the Ty's rule the 1/8th mile and it is close in the 1/4 with most of the high-mileage Typhoon's.

I guess I will have to spank them with the Evolution.

 

[Maxtor]

Our Gen II Lightning is totally stock and has low miles. I've ran it in the 1/8 mile three times. Got a 8.9, 9.0, and 9.4 :roll: , blew the tires off on that one. It is REALLY hard to take off on stock tires without turning them to dust. Most people who run them at the track at least put on DR's. "Launching" them like we do the SyTy's is completely out of the question with stock tires. I got the 8.9 by letting it roll out 2-3 feet then punching it. With more experience at the track with the Lightning I may be able to improve it slightly, but not much.

Totally different vehicle than the Sy or the Ty, not really comparable.

 

[AlaskaTy]

my buddy had a freak '02 L, he beat anything that he lined up against on the street...he never got it to the track though, so no timeslips. But he did smoke numerous SLP SS's, WS6's, MODDED lightnings, and I was in the truck with him when he ran an EVO. The guy said he was running high 12's in the quarter and was dumping the clutch but only got to the L's front fender. He smoked my ty, and he pulled 1.9 60's according to G-tech...in the rain! Like I said earlier, his truck was a runner.

 

[Raist103]

my 2k gen 2 bought by my friend bone stock on stock street tires went 13.3 back to back to back. i have it on vhs somewhere. it was not the norm i think it was the 1st or 2sd fastest in the tristate area. most i have seen at the track are in the mid 13s-mid 14s it all depends on the driver.

 

[1BADSUV]

Albertan,

I am trying to locate some L owner's that run at the track near me, so I can see for myself if they are quicker or not.

Hehe. First off you need to stop stirring up shit at NLOC all the time.

Secondly, you are comparing vehicles 15 years apart in age so it's hard to do a fair comparison. If you had a time machine and could put a brand new Gen II and a new off the showroom Ty on the line together in 2004, my money would be on the Gen II in a close race. That's assuming a decent driver in the Gen II. In the eighth mile, I would suspect the Ty to win fairly easily. SyTy's are torque monsters and pull hard off the line, which is why most red light encounters are over before you get across the intersection. But as anyone who has driven a decently modded SyTy can attest, the stock setup runs out of oomph in a hurry. So I would expect the L to come around the Ty near the end of the race and win out by a small margin as the Lightning does not lay down on the top end like a stock SyTy.

Thirdly, see my first point.

 

[champ7fl]

My dad just bought a brand new 03' Lightning. No time slips on it it, but it pulls hard. But like other people said, traction is a pain on the launch. The power curve is in the lightning is higher rpm range too (from what I can tell). The lightning tops out at 147 mph too. Off the line a SyTy would pull on the Lightning for sure, MAYBE even all the way through the 1/4 mile depending on if the stock form is above average or not, like some stock SyTys pulling 300+hp. All the stats documented by magazines and what not, put the Syclone faster than the Lightning in the 1/4... not sure about the Typhoon. Like I said, off the line a Sy Ty for sure... but in a 15mph roll out I think the lightning would take it.

 

[1BADSUV]

Typhoon

Typhoon

My dad just bought a brand new 03' Lightning. No time slips on it it, but it pulls hard. But like other people said, traction is a pain on the launch. The power curve is in the lightning is higher rpm range too (from what I can tell). The lightning tops out at 147 mph too. Off the line a SyTy would pull on the Lightning for sure, MAYBE even all the way through the 1/4 mile depending on if the stock form is above average or not, like some stock SyTys pulling 300+hp. All the stats documented by magazines and what not, put the Syclone faster than the Lightning in the 1/4... not sure about the Typhoon. Like I said, off the line a Sy Ty for sure... but in a 15mph roll out I think the lightning would take it.

Thank's for the info, documenting it now, so I have the correct information, also my debate concern's only 1/8th or 1/4 mile run.

 

[champ7fl]

http://car-stats.com listed these stats. I'm pretty sure they are wrong though, cause a sy and a ty don't run the same 1/4, they also had very little info on the sy and the ty. Just the 1/4 time and 0-60 time (which they listed 5.3)

01' Lightning 13.8 in the 1/4

91' Syclone 14.1 in the 1/4

93' Typhoon 14.1 in the 1/4

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[1BADSUV]

http://car-stats.com listed these stats. I'm pretty sure they are wrong though, cause a sy and a ty don't run the same 1/4, they also had very little info on the sy and the ty. Just the 1/4 time and 0-60 time (which they listed 5.3)

01' Lightning 13.8 in the 1/4

91' Syclone 14.1 in the 1/4

93' Typhoon 14.1 in the 1/4

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Wish that were true, but my Ty has run high 13's with a from idle punch with the Ultimate set at T1-15 with a 2.2 60 ft. To many Ty's in bad running order now to really have a correct concensus.

 

[Timbo]

my buddy had a freak '02 L, he beat anything that he lined up against on the street...he never got it to the track though, so no timeslips. But he did smoke numerous SLP SS's, WS6's, MODDED lightnings, and I was in the truck with him when he ran an EVO. The guy said he was running high 12's in the quarter and was dumping the clutch but only got to the L's front fender. He smoked my ty, and he pulled 1.9 60's according to G-tech...in the rain! Like I said earlier, his truck was a runner.

Is this the guy that lives right across from your parents? You have to get your current build running right and bring the Ty back up here to spank him

 

[blk00z28]

I dont wanna seem a little crazy here, but according to this article,
http://www.sportmachines.com/magrack/hot_rod_10-90.html
this is was there stock (or I assume it is) ran.
PERFORMANCE:
Power to Weight ............ 12.59 lbs./hp
0 to 60 mph ..................... 4.6 seconds
Quarter-Mile ................... 13.06 @ 100.2 mph
60 to 0 mph ..................... 131 feet
Skidpad .......................... .82g

I can see that a good stock sy would run a mid 13 second 1/4 but why is it I see alot of these 13 sec flat or close to it runs from test drivers?[/url]