Interior removed; doing some rewiring

VermontTy

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There's no real point to this thread but maybe to show those who have never pulled their interior apart, what lies beneath the carpet. Here's just one pic; the rest can ben seen in the link at the bottom. I am smack dab in the middle of a big rewiring project, and will be doing everything possible to clean up the engine compartment. Example; TCC and speedo wiring goes from ECU, through the firewall, under the heater box, down behind the distributor to the drivers frame rail, along the rail, then to the speedo sending unit and TCC plug. I am going to run it inside, along the floor and through a grommet near the seat to the tranny. There are several wires that just run from the ECU, all the way across the engine compartment to the plug under the brake booster, then off to random areas of the dash. I'll run them along the interior as well. There probably isn't much point in doing all of this, but it is free work, it gets me out in the garage, and I have learned a lot about the wiring of this truck (believe it or not, it really isn't that much different than any other similar year GM truck; makes me think differently about the conversion people who "couldn't figure out the wiring"
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) My goal is to make the engine compartment as clutter-free as possible, and to hide as much of the wiring as I can while still retaining full functionality.

As a side note too....if anyone has a free afternoon, I STRONGLY recommend pulling at least the seats, console and carpet out to let it sit in the sun. This truck was last registered and driven in 2001. I pulled the carpets, and the insulation was still wet underneath. Think about that one for a minute...
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Anyway, enjoy the pics, I'll keep you posted on how well or poorly the project ends up.

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http://www.northeastsyty.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album464

-adam
 

turbodog

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Re: Interior removed; doing some rewiring

Sounds like a good project. You going to dynamat while you have the interior out?
 

jjorgensen52

NHSTE - I'm the only one!
Re: Interior removed; doing some rewiring

Looks vaugely familiar :lol: ... I haven't got my rear sides off though. Going to keep my wiring stock for now. My carpet still had antifreeze and trans fluid dripping out of it 3 months after I pulled it :( ... needless to say I'm replacing it. That truck running yet?
 

Merk

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Re: Interior removed; doing some rewiring

Looks like mine when I restored the interior.

I recommend throwing that old carpet out for a new one. GM charges 3-400 for a new carpet. PM me if you want the part number.
 

VermontTy

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Re: Interior removed; doing some rewiring

I'm not going to Dynamat it. A) the stuff is too expensive for me, I'd rather spend the $300+- on goodies. B) I think the truck in stock form is relatively quiet. C) I don't want to drown out the sweet music of that turbo!

I'm further from a running truck than when I bought it. I slapped it back together for the 12 mile ride to our new garage with detached house. :D Since then, I've pulled the gas tank, most of the fuel lines, every piece of underhood wiring, the interior, the turbo bound up somehow (doesn't freespin anymore, and is kinda sludgy?) and the motor is being pulled again next week for a new TC install and some more wiring / firewall cleanup. I'm a LONG way from a running truck, but would love to pull off a miracle and be able to make it to Jimmy's BBQ around May again.....

Cold? Nah. Its 65 in there all winter.
 
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qbnkiller

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Re: Interior removed; doing some rewiring

a cheaper alternative to Dynamat is spray-on bedliner.
 

NateP

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Re: Interior removed; doing some rewiring

Wiring frightens me... looking forward to hearing how the project goes though.

Nate
 

jjorgensen52

NHSTE - I'm the only one!
Re: Interior removed; doing some rewiring

VermontTy said:
I'm further from a running truck than when I bought it. I slapped it back together for the 12 mile ride to our new garage with detached house. :D Since then, I've pulled the gas tank, most of the fuel lines, every piece of underhood wiring, the interior, the turbo bound up somehow (doesn't freespin anymore, and is kinda sludgy?) and the motor is being pulled again next week for a new TC install and some more wiring / firewall cleanup. I'm a LONG way from a running truck, but would love to pull off a miracle and be able to make it to Jimmy's BBQ around May again.....

Sounds like a load of fun. I'm still jealous of you shop setup :lol: ... My garage is 3 stalls that are approx 6" apart, so the ty and my dad's saab in storage makes it pretty tight working quarters ... I'll race you to May, I think I might actually have a truck that can move itself by then :tup:
 

VermontTy

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NateP said:
Wiring frightens me... looking forward to hearing how the project goes though.
It's funny...it sounds scary, but once I committed to destroying the engine harness and seeing how it all is run and laid out, it really is suprisingly simple. The tough part of taking the harness apart was that the wires were all kind of braided together before the Weather-Pack ends were put on, so you couldn't just take for example, the MAP sensor plug, remove the wireloom and tape from the harness and follow it all the way back to the ECM plugs without cutting some other wires. I'm sure they do that so you can't duck into an interior harness and get, say all the wiring to make adding A/C or cruise control a pure plug & play operation.

jjorgensen52 said:
I'll race you to May, I think I might actually have a truck that can move itself by then :tup:
Game on...
 

MrNurse

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Re: Interior removed; doing some rewiring

I found at a local luber yard some window liner or something likt that for installing windows into structures. anyways, it comes in a 10-12 inch by 50 foot roll. I put it in my sy on the floorboard and back wall. not as thick as dynamat( not as heavy) but it only cost like 25 bucks a roll. just a neat find i thought
 

TurboJunk

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Re: Interior removed; doing some rewiring

MrNurse said:
I found at a local luber yard some window liner or something likt that for installing windows into structures. anyways, it comes in a 10-12 inch by 50 foot roll. I put it in my sy on the floorboard and back wall. not as thick as dynamat( not as heavy) but it only cost like 25 bucks a roll. just a neat find i thought
good find..... maybe ill use that instead of the dynomat now i get to return it!!!
 

Captain Morgan

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Re: Interior removed; doing some rewiring

there is a product called Brown Bread and costs less than half of what Dynamat does and you get more per roll.

http://www.b-quiet.com/

EDIT: seems the Brown Bread has been replaced by B-Quiet® Ultimate and B-Quiet® Extreme is even less and weighs less too.
 

TYRODD

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Re: Interior removed; doing some rewiring

Any idea how many sq/ft of d-mat or brown-bead it would take to do a ty?
 

tnsyty

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Re: Interior removed; doing some rewiring

You can also use peel and seal from lowes instead of dynamat. I used frostking from lowes in my vette. Made it alot quieter. If i ever had that ,much interior out of the typhoon, i would be sealing and soundeading everywehre. It is very surprising to someone when they get into a 14 yearold truck and it is as quiet as a newcaddy. You will still here the turbo, it will take all the road noise away.
 

TYRODD

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Re: Interior removed; doing some rewiring

tnsyty said:
You can also use peel and seal from lowes instead of dynamat. I used frostking from lowes in my vette. Made it alot quieter. If i ever had that ,much interior out of the typhoon, i would be sealing and soundeading everywehre. It is very surprising to someone when they get into a 14 yearold truck and it is as quiet as a newcaddy. You will still here the turbo, it will take all the road noise away.

Whats the price difference if any on the peel and seal?
 

VermontTy

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Re: Interior removed; doing some rewiring

tnsyty said:
You can also use peel and seal from lowes instead of dynamat. I used frostking from lowes in my vette. Made it alot quieter. If i ever had that ,much interior out of the typhoon, i would be sealing and soundeading everywehre. It is very surprising to someone when they get into a 14 yearold truck and it is as quiet as a newcaddy. You will still here the turbo, it will take all the road noise away.
Is that the same stuff as Bitchathane? (Ice & Water shield? Sticky on one side, and real rubbery?) If so, I could see how it would work pretty well. I used it roofing my house this fall, and it was around $150 for a 75' x 3' roll.

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MrNurse

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Re: Interior removed; doing some rewiring

the stuff i used looks just like dynamat but with different writing on it. looks like aluminum foil on one side and rubbery on the other. loooks like foil meaning is is silver and shinny. but it is nearly the same as dynamat. i asked a stereo shop about it and they said they use it in some of their installs because it is so cheap and it works.
 

tnsyty

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Re: Interior removed; doing some rewiring

MrNurse said:
the stuff i used looks just like dynamat but with different writing on it. looks like aluminum foil on one side and rubbery on the other. loooks like foil meaning is is silver and shinny. but it is nearly the same as dynamat. i asked a stereo shop about it and they said they use it in some of their installs because it is so cheap and it works.

That sounds like frostking or peel and seal. I know frostking is shinny, but it is more foam texture than rubber. The peel and seal is just like dynamat. It is around the gutter section at Lowes. I do not remember the price but it is cheaper than dynamat. You are not having to pay for the name
 
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