Is this a good thing? header question w/pic

93ty475

Donating Member
what kind of headers are these? atr? if so, i've heard they suck...i can buy this sy cheap...all maintenance was done...been sitting for years, though...
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93ty475

Donating Member
jwaller said:
that looks to be kenny bell junk.

very possible on that one...this truck only has 57k on it, well maintained, for 5000.00...but alot of junk "in" and "on" it...thanks for the offer the other day....i went with a yellow 929 down here for 6k...
 

92Ty#1524

New member
They're Kenne Bell. I've got em and hate em. However, since I cant afford a new set of ATRs at the moment and my engine bay is pretty much built around them, I'd be willing to take them off of your hands for a reasonable price (if you buy it) so that I can replace mine as they cracking at the collector illustrated in the above pic.
 

93ty475

Donating Member
92Ty#1524 said:
They're Kenne Bell. I've got em and hate em.

better than stock? or do they need to come out? i think im going to buy the truck anyway...it was modded in the early 90's...been sitting since about 95...had my eye on it for a while, and his wife wants it OUT before her 15yr old gets a license to drive...

im pretty convinced its a good deal...

heres some more pics...
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93ty475

Donating Member
Sigo said:
I'm curious to find out where (generally speaking) this truck is?

its sitting under a carport on a several thousand acre ranch right here by me in laredo, texas...
 

Ty0279

Historically Significant
93ty475 said:
Sigo said:
I'm curious to find out where (generally speaking) this truck is?

its sitting under a carport on a several thousand acre ranch right here by me in laredo, texas...

How did you find out about it?
 

93ty475

Donating Member
Ty0279 said:
93ty475 said:
Sigo said:
I'm curious to find out where (generally speaking) this truck is?

its sitting under a carport on a several thousand acre ranch right here by me in laredo, texas...

How did you find out about it?

ive known about it since it was new...i bought my policecar ty from this same guy for 800.00 (wrecked) some time back...and i just keep in touch and drop by from time to time...
 

92Ty#1524

New member
I havent dealt with them long enough to say "yank em out now" but I believe that there are better options out there.

I dont care for mine because of the high arc on the driver side. It throws out lots of heat near the top of the engine. In my limited experience, it cooks the brake master clylinder and anything else within close prox (ie. valve cover, upper intake, wiring loom).

If you do take them out, you've got a bit of undoing to do. The KB headers move the turbo up and forward so (if yours is like mine) the oil, coolant and intake piping has been altered to accomodate it. Not gonna be an afternoon job in the garage. Check it out closely before you dive into it.

I dont know how those headers compare to stock. Have seen some setups that still use the stockers.

Are you using the KB air to air cooler as well?
 

93ty475

Donating Member
92Ty#1524 said:
I havent dealt with them long enough to say "yank em out now" but I believe that there are better options out there.

I dont care for mine because of the high arc on the driver side. It throws out lots of heat near the top of the engine. In my limited experience, it cooks the brake master clylinder and anything else within close prox (ie. valve cover, upper intake, wiring loom).

If you do take them out, you've got a bit of undoing to do. The KB headers move the turbo up and forward so (if yours is like mine) the oil, coolant and intake piping has been altered to accomodate it. Not gonna be an afternoon job in the garage. Check it out closely before you dive into it.

I dont know how those headers compare to stock. Have seen some setups that still use the stockers.

Are you using the KB air to air cooler as well?

if i end up buying the truck, i'll probably just sit on it for a while before i do anything to it...im not ready to start dumping time and money into another project right now...i wish the thing was stock...the turbo doesnt appear to be stock however the intercooler is stock and he added one of those additional heat exchangers behind the grill...makes me want to sell my typhoon project now :roll: any offers? i'll deliver in texas...
 

hamrhead

Donating Member
I have KB headers and so far - no problems. Time was taken to *try* to keep everything away from the heat, plus they are coated. From what I've read ATR headers heve their share of problems as well.
 

ghettosled

SYTY SUPERSTORE
The KB headers are actually a pretty decent design. ATR uses thin wall stainless, and cracks just as much as the mild steel KBs. The only way to prevent cracking is using .065 wall 321 stainless and backpurging it. Once coated you cant tell the difference b/t mild and stainless anyways.

The KB headers allow for bigger and better turbo options, as well as a nicely mounted external wastegate, and clearance for angle plug aluminum heads.

I'm sure everyone has their preferences, but the KB headers are definately better then stock.
 

White97SVT

Member
Was a sliding rear window an option on the Sy's. I thought that they all came with the solid rear window. This one looks like it has a slider in there.
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Boostn

91 Syclone on a diet
I got KB headers. I chose them over the ATRs because of the cracking problems and hard access to spark plugs.

Oh well, they worked great for me. Mike knows that I have it on my Ty, I am not complaining.
 

nightdiver

Active member
If youre going to weld the cracks dont forget to remove the coating first or it will brake again ......soon ...very soon
 
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