Ostrich Help

crazy151drinker

New member
Well first off this started today everything was fine yesterday. Whenever tunerpro looks for the Ostrich my system crashes. I can have the Osrtich connected (usb) and everything will be fine but as soon as tunerpro looks for it *wham* system crashes and my laptop restarts. Just started doing it today. Ostrich is not plugged in to the CPU (im in my living room). I have re-installed Tunerpro about 5 times and it still happens. Any suggestions would be welcome....

Laptop 1 year old running XP. But like I said, it has worked fine for quite some time now.

Thanx,

Crazy
 

MRKING

New Parts for Old Trucks
Re: Ostrich Help

So it crashes with and without the ostrich being hooked up ?
 

MRKING

New Parts for Old Trucks
Re: Ostrich Help

My ostrich works great , I just have to get my newly painted truck re-assembled to use it again . Either of you make any progress so far ??
 

crazy151drinker

New member
Re: Ostrich Help

I can use tunerpro as long as the Ostrich is not hooked up. If I start tunerpro without the Ostrich it is fine but as soon as I hook up the Ostrich and click on 'look for hardware' it sees the Ostrich and WHAM system crash computer restarts. If I have the Ostrich hooked up and I start Tunerpro then tunerpro automaticly looks for hardware and then the computer crashes. It just started doing this so I cant understand why. It was fine for quite some time. Im going to have to uninstall the G1 and just use the stock chip.


Im just trying to figure out why this is happening. Kind of hard to test new bins (ie attempt to learn how to tune or use the future Code 58) without an ostrich. I guess I could start burning chips but that would defeat the whole purpose of having the Ostrich in the first place.

Me thinks the truck demons have possed the Ostrich.

-Crazy

On a side note, the truck ran better with the stock chip than the Ostrich with the stock bin. Strange...
 
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James Thomas

"NO CLASS"
Re: Ostrich Help

Just wonder if you you guys have contacted Craig Moates and if so was he able to offer any help. I saythis cause I just dropped $400 plus on stuff from him and an Ostrich is one of the things I just got. Not ready to hook it up yet but I hope it goes smooth?

___________
James
 

SpoolingTurbo6

Donating Member
Re: Ostrich Help

Thats not where the prob is ...its in the software but more so the computer your using....For some reason newer computers are having issues connecting. dropped 800 bucks on a laptop and it wont connect to the truck.I have spoke w/ Creg and Mark but I'm still sitting with an 800 dollar laptop that wont connect to the truck arent I !!!!!!! Its like putting a super computer in the Columbia space ship,The ship is old and works off of more more than Palm Pilot memory.....well you get it. Our trucks are old.BUY A FAST SYSTEM !
 

crazy151drinker

New member
Re: Ostrich Help

I'll try those drivers...though I fail to see why it would be a problem when it worked for a couple of weeks before. Hmmmm I did load some drivers from the CD that came with the Ostrich...maybe thats the issue. I'll try it when I get up tommorow. Either way, strange for Drivers to cause the whole system to crash. Oh well, i'll try it. I have nothing to lose at this point.
 

crazy151drinker

New member
Re: Ostrich Help

Im also using a gateway :) Drivers didnt help. Screen turns blue with some error message and crashes just like usual. I guess i'll have to send moates an email.
 

SpoolingTurbo6

Donating Member
Re: Ostrich Help

*Blue Screen Issue*
Sorry I just saw this before reading the thread again today.I going to ask Mark if I can send my GayWay to him and have him put it on his test bench ECM and get mine to connect,It's a pisser to spend so $ and not use it for tunning!
 

crazy151drinker

New member
Re: Ostrich Help

Nice link :)

Let me know how it works out. I have a nice black box that doesnt work sitting in my room. This weekend i'll try it out on another computer to confirm that its the Ostrich.
 

SpoolingTurbo6

Donating Member
Re: Ostrich Help

I've got everything working with the exception of the ALDL dash and Bubble ( if thats what we call it )
I can tune if I use bothe DataMaster and TunerPro...........It suck monkey balls to have to do it like that.One screen wants to stay on top of the other and when you got to change a value in DM you have to make sure to
1save
2find it and open in TP then upload
3Check TP to make sure it loaded
3.5 go back to DM
4find the window you put away
5record new session
6open new file
7hit record
SUCKS
I've got a lot of appreciation for BrianGreen and all the others who used to do all this with a hex editor.
Might seem easier that way now!!!!!

But, oh no, it's not a software problem!
 

MRKING

New Parts for Old Trucks
Re: Ostrich Help

I am almost willing to bet money you dont have the correct drivers installed in the correct location . If memory serves me , there were 2 different drivers I had to use . First one was from the cd that came with it and the other came from the website I posted about already . I do remember it was hell getting it set up though .
 

2kwik4u

Resident slow guy
Re: Ostrich Help

Actually they do have bluetooth on the ostrich....and people are using it with good success. When I purchase my own, I'll be getting a bluetooth unit myself.

To connect in tunerpro you can't simply hit connect. Go to the ALDL setup screen. Then hit connect. THEN... Select the Silence coms command, and send that about 15-20 times, until the packet error count stops climbing. When that stops climbing then you should be recieving data......All of this is assuming that you have the ALDL cable setup to be on the same com port as what Tunerpro is looking at.

To check the COM port right click on my computer. Select properties. Then navigate under the hardware tab, and click on the device manager button. Scroll down and find in the USB section a USB to serial or something named very similar to that. UNplug the ALDL and refresh the device manager (right click ANYTHING, and select scan for new hardware). This will insure that you are selecting the correct device. You can then right click on the correct device, and navigate to the advanced button on the second tab. You should see COM port pull down on this screen. Set the COM port to something less than 4 that is available. Save changes, and exit. Head back to tunerpro with the ALDL cable still plugged in, and navigate to TOOLS-->Preferences. Under the ALDL/Emulation tab be sure that the com port is set the same there as the one you set previously in Device manager.

A couple tips to help. ALWAYS use the same physical port for the ALDL cable, and the Ostrich. Consistency pays huge dividends in not having to reset these com settings each time. I know it should just figure it out, but if you take a few extra seconds to set it up right, and then are consistent, you'll see some good performance.

If you have an Ostrich, then you can apply Digs patch to help connectivity. With this patch I can litteraly be in the truck, and connected in less than a minute, not counting boot up time. It connects PERFECTLY each time, and works like a champ.

As for the Ostrich crashing the computer. I had a similar problem, only it would crash anytime I started TunerPro on a friends older Compaq machine. The USB drivers in WinXP Home were conflicting with TunerProRT (not just regular TunerPro though). I ended up reloading WinXP Pro from a CD I had sitting around on that machine, and that seemed to cure it. I would check that machine for anything that has changed. Like windows updates, USB drivers for video games, that sort of thing. Anyhing that would've or could've possibly changed the configuration of the machine.


In other thoughts. I've had VERY little problems with TunerPro in general once I spent a day and worked the details out on my machine. I've seen it run on ultra-portables (like Fujitsu's), older low buck low performance machines, and my personal high end Acer machine. Once you work the bugs out, and get all your settings up and going, you'll be singing the praise too. I'm confident there isn't another program for this application that has the same power it does.
 

2kwik4u

Resident slow guy
Re: Ostrich Help

macg3cpu said:
why do I never see packet errors or actual packets?

Which cable are you using? I only have experience with the one from moates. There is a switch on the box that should be in the middle on the little black box that goes between the ALDL port, and the USB port.

I'll get a screenshot of my ALDL Setup pane, and my Tools->Preferences->ALDL/Emulation Tab up in the morning if you want it.
 
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