Squall what's that

mikes92phoon

Typhoon #2038
My typhoon felt like the trans was slipping so I take it into a trans shop, the owner of the shop rides with me while I drive and I explain to him what's going on. He tells me that the 1-2 shift has a squall "sounds more like a howl" from worn plates and the sound at WOT is swelling or something like that causing the trans to slip at WOT. :(
He told me if I drive like a normal driver it would last a while , but it would die soon if I slam it.
I just bought this from ebay and the seller told me that it was 100% perfect now looks like I need a new transmission and got screwed on ebay. :rant:

My question is......is the shop right or is it a simple thing that could be solved with a few dollars? or 100's of those hard to come by bills my wife won't let me have?
:banghead:
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
Re: Squall what's that

I have no idea what your talking about, beside the transmission. However, if it a SyTy transmission it should have hard (1/2 throttle) and really hard WOT 1-2 shift. If you don't notice it, there usually is something wrong with the tranny.
 

MikeRenz

not stock
Re: Squall what's that

if thats the original tranny....having over 130k miles is a lot. Wouldn't be surprised if its pretty worn out by now.
 
Re: Squall what's that

mikes92phoon said:
I just bought this from ebay and the seller told me that it was 100% perfect now looks like I need a new transmission and got screwed on ebay. :rant:

Right there is your problem. In any other automatic application the tranny would be fine, but not for a syty. Any ebay tranny is probably not going to hold up to the abuse a syty will give. How long has it lasted? Most dont usually last to the first oil change if it doesn't have the syty valve body in it and a few other odds and ends...

Do you still have the stock tranny? or did you ship it off to him as a core charge?
 

'JustDreamin'

Dream: 6LV8 Turbo Bravada
Re: Squall what's that

I think he just bought the truck off ebay (not the tranny).


Given the history of these trucks, there is little likelyhood that any transmission noise will be fixed with a couple of bucks. Personally, it sounds like the tranny is likely toast. AWD + Turbo V6 + Weak Transmission = Broken Transmissions. The 700R4 isn't the most durable offering GM has ever put into vehicles. I'd say it isn't half the transmission the TH400 is. However, the TH400 doesn't have 4 gears.

My recommendations:
1.) Don't drive the truck until you fix it. If that's not possible, drive it VERY conservatively. Be as easy on it as you can be. If you see boost, you're driving too hard. Track down somebody on the board who is near to you and can give you an opinion.

2.) Start saving money for a transmission. Sooner or later you're going to need to put a tranny in. Its a ticking time bomb, only problem is you don't know how much time is left.

3.) Figure out what transmission you want to put back in (you don't want to dump money into a trans that you don't want to keep). This will depend upon what you want to do with the truck. Search this board extensively. See what experience some of the other guys have. You will find a few options:
A.) Well built 700R4 (basically what you have now only fully functional). There are a couple of builders on here that can help you out with this. A correctly built 700R4 won't be cheap, but it should also last more than 6 months (or less). If you've got a fast truck (11's or so) you may be getting to the point where the 700R4 won't last more than a season if raced regularly.
B.) TH350 or TH400 conversion. These are only 3 speed trannys, but are significantly less expensive than building a comparable strength 700R4. If you've got a drag only truck, 3 speeds is probably acceptable. Think seriously about that option if that is your situation.
C.) 4L80E conversion. Basically, the 4L80E is a TH400 with overdrive. Capable of handling 800+ hp. But heavy and extremely expensive (figure $4k to $6k depending upon the trans and conversion parts required) and require a computer to run the transmission (among other things). This is not for the faint of pocketbook. This is best suited to trucks in the 10's or lower that must maintain their streetability (ie need overdrive).

4.) Figure out who you're going to get a transmission built by and who's going to put it in. Most local transmission shops have no idea how to build a trans to live in a Sy or Ty. They think "I can build a tranny to live behind a 450 hp SBC in a 'Vette, whats a silly little S10 gonna do". Problem is, the AWD system means you can't rely on the tires to break free and save the trans from damage. The trans IS the weakest link and needs to be built correctly in order to avoid needing replacement every 3 months or less.

'JustDreamin'
 
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mikes92phoon

Typhoon #2038
Re: Squall what's that

thanks 'JustDreamin' that was what I tought I was going to have to do. :(
Yes, I bought the typhoon off ebay, the owner told me every thing was as it should be..... I am hopeful that he will help out in the replace cost but I am probaly screwed... maybe ebay has some type of fraud protection that would cover it?
I deff want the trans done right the first time I am to busy to mess with it alot and this is a 4th car anyway so I'll pull it out and get it setup from a good syty builder...what is the going rate for the standard rebuild?


Here is the link to the ty when I won it
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...d=1,1&item=4602137620&sspagename=STRK:MEWN:IT
 

vinnieTy

TY # 1889
Re: Squall what's that

If you paid what it stated on th auction at 7700 dollars i wouldnt be to upset. look at it this way there are guys that bought typhoons almost double what you paid and are taking the chance of nothing being wrong with it and trusting the previous owner on what he or she says. Also it being your 4th car do it right becasue it will pay off down the line. that looks like a very clean truck and good luck with it. At 130k miles and it being the original tranny if it is that is only indicating that the truck wasnt abused. I think it is just worn out from the mileage but not worn out becasue of abuse. Just my 2cents on the matter.
 

myclone

Donating Member
Re: Squall what's that

mikes92phoon said:
the 1-2 shift has a squall

If the above is happening on the 1-2 shift (or any other shift for that matter) the trans has to come out and gone through. Ive seen two unit make the squall/howl on the 1-2 and the band/clutched were burned down to the steel backing. :2cents:
 

mikes92phoon

Typhoon #2038
Re: Squall what's that

Very true about the trans dieing of age the truck is so clean it blows my mind.......... get this I was under the truck last night looking at the trans to see what it take to pull it and I look over and the freeze plug catches my eye....it's brass and not painted also has a overheat tag sensor on it....is that a factory thing or not?. In the past all factory engines I worked on had cheep freeze plugs and no overheat tag. Looks like a new motor to me! the seller only had it for a month so he is clueless to the history of the truck. I know that is was from LA but that's it.
 
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