Syclone 1983??? In the Carolinas?

buickman69

Retired Buick Enthusiast
Re: Syclone 1983??? In the Carolinas?

I just found who has it in doing a search for the truck #.... he only has 31 post but it's in upstate SC according to his profile.
SCWolverine

This is what it looked like 6 years ago..
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I kept those floor mats & put the originals back in it, these mats are in my current daily driver... I liked the Kenwood stereo & remote start alarm...
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It was all stock....
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I think Steve added a 3,500 converter, turbo, injectors, gages, etc..
 

SCWolverine

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Re: Syclone 1983??? In the Carolinas?

Still out here, lurking and learning. The planets of time and money are nearing allignment, so I should be able to finish a few things this winter (injectors, MAP, tuning...). I'll snap some new pics this weekend, but it still looks the same (been garaged since you sold it to Steve). Just a few hundred shy of 130K mi, not stock any more.
 

SCWolverine

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Re: Syclone 1983??? In the Carolinas?

CKEITH said:
do you happen to know mike dover....the owner of clearview window tinting????

I know where Clearview is (in Spartanburg), but never been in there, don't know Mike.
 
Re: Syclone 1983??? In the Carolinas?

i ask because he has bought several vehicles from my dealership in the past and i happened to have the sy @ work one day and he stated that he knew a fellow in the upstate that had one that just sat in his garage and he never drove it....thought it might be you. he stated the guys name but i have forgotten it.
 

buickman69

Retired Buick Enthusiast
Re: Syclone 1983??? In the Carolinas?

SCWolverine said:
Still out here, lurking and learning. The planets of time and money are nearing allignment, so I should be able to finish a few things this winter (injectors, MAP, tuning...). I'll snap some new pics this weekend, but it still looks the same (been garaged since you sold it to Steve). Just a few hundred shy of 130K mi, not stock any more.

Look forward to seeing those pics.
It was a good daily driver. Smaller than what I needed but @ that time I made do.

Not sure if Steve told ya but the front propshaft that's in there come from someone that Joe (JKsSyclone) told me about....when I called to order it, they told me it was the same thing they are running on a 10 sec TY. I gave the original propshaft to Steve... maybe he passed it on.

I launched it 1 night @ on the street showing it off & it ripped the prop-boot & reaked havioc on the tranny. I pushed it hard as it could possibly go & when I side steped that brake it was awsome. Had NEVER launched it like that yet @ that time. It pulled GREAT though... I'd bet ya it was a 1.60-60ft when I did that..being use to 1.40 60fts in the Buick... I knew what a strong 60 felt-like.
The tranny was shot.. ran a few more miles but I knew it was hurt BAD...when it went down, it sank faster than the Titanic! Lost all fwd gears except for a crawl in 1st & was grinding..

The tranny guy....ooohhh we miss him, was a 70 year old chain smoker who had connections with Dana, Spicer, GM, & Ford... he did product research & testing for them & he had his own dyno also including a dyno for those semi-18 wheeler trannies...
He had a stroke & retired not long after doing that tranny then soon died. The guy that bought him out they say is an idiot & doesn't know SQUAT compared to what Vernon knew. Without saying, he's lost a bunch of his business & all the Buick business he had.
Anyway, he (Vernon) had a HELLUVA-reputation in the Buick community on both Buick V8 & V6 turbo cars. Buick people was bringing/shipping their trannies & cars from all across the country to this guy.
He had built the tranny in my GN also 6 years earlier...& it was making 10.80 1/4mile passes with no problems from it ever again.

So I load the SY up & take it 1.5 hours away to see Vernon in Tullahoma TN.
Told him how it happened, the hard launch, & reminded him the truck was bone stock except for this beefy propshaft thanks to the launch that trashed the tranny.
He knew what a SY was obviously & knew about turbos, tunning, everything. Very impressive man

He calls me a few days later..says the parts that was in your tranny (from GM) had a defect from the manufacture... too weak & should have never been installed.. says he'd seen that before but not that often..no-tellin how many of those SYs had parts from that same-bad-batch he said.
Then he shows me the pile of parts & stripped gears...
Busted planitaries, drum....... parts I didn't even know existed...pure carnage.

He told me that kinda damage should NEVER come from a stock truck even with that kinda launch. Said it would never do that again, & challenged me to go out there & launch it in front of his shop... :D
Said he put a stock Vette converter in it as it had slight more stall to it than the SY converter... I was keeping the truck stock anyway & he knew that but I didn't care what he did to it, he was da-man.

I NEVER had another problem with the tranny again. Loved the way it shifted....
The bill?
$1,500 out the door.
Peace of mind knowing it was done right the 1st time..PRICELESS!
This was in early '01.

We've never found a tranny guy like him since. :(

I paid $300 for that propshaft. That was a expensive launch.

I'm thinking Steve put a 3,500 in it. Maybe he passed off that converter to ya that Vernon put in-it..don't know.

He took me for a ride 1 day after he changed the turbo & did some work to it. It was stumbling ..seemed like a fuel problem. I could tell it was strong though.

I was shocked that he sold it, he seemed to be enjoying it. :)
 
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buickman69

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Re: Syclone 1983??? In the Carolinas?

JKsSyclone said:
You need to quit reminessing and buy another one. :D

LOL... I was drunk & listening to some old tunes the other night that got me to thinking about it.
I had a good time in that thing but you know I don't do turbos anymore & that i'm not a "GM" fan either. :) But, i'll always be a Buick-guy though.
My HP & drag-racing days are OVER for now till I build my 1,200hp (on spray) Buick 350 Model A street-rod. You know, something like Speedys got, but Barrett-Jackson material. :D
That project is several years off.

You remember this little SY-TY get-together don't ya?
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To bad, the only 1s that showed-up was all black....
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Mine & yours... there is me in my thinner days..
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Under the hood of my truck.. you could see may belt buckle back then :(
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I think this use to be Lloyd Tarters truck, my friend who started Bowling Green Customs, a Buick vendor who sold out later on & some crooks from GA bought the business & duked some people.

As I recall I was sick that day or on the downhill side of being sick. It was cold that day too.
I think another 1 or 2 rolled in later that didn't get in the pictures. ??
To bad Jimmy, & my friend Don couldn't make it.
Dons SY is a low-low number & he's the original owner. I think it's only got a little over 9,000 miles on it.
 
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JKsSyclone

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Re: Syclone 1983??? In the Carolinas?

Oh yeah...I remember that little gathering. That was a cold day. We had fun though. Too bad Jimmy missed that one.
 

buickman69

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Re: Syclone 1983??? In the Carolinas?

SCWolverine said:
In reverse:
Yeah, I could tell he really didn't want to, but son > Sy.
3000
Threw a few older ones in the bucket until I can take some new ones.
http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e235/scwolverine/Syclone/

Wow, you got a toneau cover for it....I remember Steve put those clear lights in-it...

Is there a problem with the tranny or shaft? The picture..?

Is there a problem in the dash? I see you've got or had-it all apart?

There was a frame-hitch hid underneath the rear bumper.
That's why that square cut-out is there. For some unkown reason, Steve pulled the hitch off, left it laying in the bed @ work 1 day & said someone helped their-self to it. :(
I wouldn't have took it off to start with..

The cladding looks nice. Looks like you've painted it. I was afraid to do any painting cause of the SY stickers, their factory locations, & originality!

I did have the bottom of the tailgate fixed.. had some bubbling in it.. the guy wanted me to replace the entire-gate but I wouldn't cause of the stickers on both sides. So he brought the repair up just underneath the stickers & blended it really nicely. Unless you've really looked @ it, you'd probably have never known it.

A friend of mine backed into the front drivers corner, bent the support bar behind the bumper cover & pushed it back into the fender...same guy did the repair on that.. it turned out real nice. He also painted both front fender cladding.. did this @ the same time he did the repair on the gate. :)
 

SCWolverine

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Re: Syclone 1983??? In the Carolinas?

Actually Steve got the cover. I was undecided on the clears, but they've grown on me.

No problems, just crawling around under there with the camera.

Steve said he had never been able to get the alarm to act right, I took of a bulging panel, and that's what fell out. I wound up stripping it down to the auto start/remote locks.

No paint on the cladding, just lots of Stoners Trim Shine, gonna be fun preping whenever the day comes to actually paint it.

Has a spot about the size of a quarter on the bottom left corner of the tailgate that's bubbling, I probably will replace the whole thing before paint (no time soon).

I noticed that (actually that the bumper cover didn't quite line up with the fender), a little tweaking solved that.

You sold it to Steve end of Feb '02, how long did you own it? (trying to put together it's history).
 

buickman69

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Re: Syclone 1983??? In the Carolinas?

SCWolverine said:
Actually Steve got the cover. I was undecided on the clears, but they've grown on me.
No problems, just crawling around under there with the camera.
Steve said he had never been able to get the alarm to act right, I took of a bulging panel, and that's what fell out. I wound up stripping it down to the auto start/remote locks.
No paint on the cladding, just lots of Stoners Trim Shine, gonna be fun preping whenever the day comes to actually paint it.
Has a spot about the size of a quarter on the bottom left corner of the tailgate that's bubbling, I probably will replace the whole thing before paint (no time soon).
I noticed that (actually that the bumper cover didn't quite line up with the fender), a little tweaking solved that.
You sold it to Steve end of Feb '02, how long did you own it? (trying to put together it's history).

I "never" had a problem with that alarm/remote starter! I use to have it & that stereo in a Freightliner. Sold the Freightliner & the Vette about the same time. Had it all stripped out of the F-liner & re-installed in the SY @ Circuit City which is where I got them originally.
I don't recall Steve saying anything to me about it. What-ever the problem was with the alarm developed after selling it to him.. :(

I knew the bumper wasn't lined 100% perfectly, but it was good enough for me as a daily driver. My friend of course paid for the front-end damage/repair & I paid for the touch-up on the gate. I was just impressed with how good it all turned-out for as "cheap" as he did the work-$$$!
He said that the gate repair wouldn't last if water or mositure kept getting down in it from around the handle.

As far as time-line on the history.....hhhhhmmmm.....
I was tied in with a dealer in KY (just some piddling on the side). I was also approved for a Papa Johns Pizza Franchise & I didn't want to make a wrong impression on employees by driving a new-Vette. So I sold the Vette in October... & found the SY @ the Bowling Green KY Auto-Auction in Nov '00. (Ended-up passing on the franchise by the way)
So I buy the truck @ the sale (to be "my-personal" driver).

I was curious on it's history also & wondering where the heck the owners manual was to it. I could remember someone sitting on the passenger side as it was drove in flipping thru a black book & I thought that was it. The next day when I picked it up I opened the g-box & it's no where to be found.

I think I have these contacts wrote down somewhere as well as the 2nd owners contact info along with reciepts for the propshaft, tranny, manuals for the stereo & alarm, etc. If I find it i'll send it to ya. We moved 2 years ago so I don't know exactly where to lay my fingers on this stuff.

I called the dealer that ran it thru the auction, he bought it from another dealer like several months/almost a year prior. Never could sell it but drove it some. Called the dealer he got it from & this was an interesting story. (Might be 1 more dealer in-between, can't remember)

The 2nd owner buys it from the GMC dealer where it was purchased new & traded back in. (no contact info on the original owner as they moved away "IF" I remember correctly from the 2nd owner) The bed-cover was destroyed from what he recalled the dealer telling them per the original owner.

So the 2nd owner has it a few years then decided to trade it in @ a local used dealer. Then he came back & bought/traded again, does this like 2, 3 or 4 times....?? the thing was the truck was sitting there on this lot & they couldn't sell it. He loved it, missed it, & would get a hankering to want it back.

So finally, the last time, this dealer runs it thru the sale just to get rid of it cause he was tired of dealing with dude & it'd got to where they couldn't deal on it anymore...plus he couldn't sell it to anyone else (hard to sell)

That's the basic story I got from the other dealers is they couldn't sell it.
It either started from Indiana & went to Ohio or vise-versa (can't remember) & then went to KY.
So I called the 2nd owner... he backed up the story about trading/purchasing it back several times...lol...
I called him before Steve bought it & told him I was wanting to sell it, said he'd love to buy it back AGAIN but @ that time he was financially strapped.., shoulda never got rid of it, etc.
I know it's a crazy story but to the best of my memory & knowledge based on what was told to me, it's true.
2nd owner had a riding lawn mower & little trailer he pulled behind the SY.
So i'm the 3rd, Steve is the 4th, & you are the 5th owner.

Anyway.. I buy the SY Nov '00, buy my new STS Crapillac Nov '01, parked the SY in the barn in December '01, & Steve came along & got it in March of '02. It sat for about 3 months.

I drove it for awhile on a dealer tag before I tagged it in my own name.. Can't remember the mileage when I bought it..was like 88-90,000 miles, I remember it had 90 something on it when I F'd the tranny & shaft. :(
Believe it had about 119,000 when I sold it to Steve. Put about 30,000 miles on it in that year & 1month I drove it.
It was a good little driver. I only ran Mobil 1 15-50 oil in it as that is what we run in turbo Buicks.
I replaced (myself) the high-low A/C lines & recharged with R12. Hopefully it still has the R12. Man, it'd get real cold real quick! :)
I replaced the front pads & turned the rotors.... had to wax that thing once a month it seemed like as it'd oxidize/fade real quick. I determined that'd be the last black or dark colored vehicle i'll EVER buy.
Also the ABS light started comming on & staying (before I ever replaced the pads) so I just barley unplugged it from the top of the unit..you'd have to look real close as it looked to be plugged-in & no-one ever knew. I told Steve though.
That's about all the history I can think of to give ya on it. If ya ever have any questions or anything I can help ya with just let me know. :)
 
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