Turbo
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teamvortec
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Re: Turbo
I run 18psi on my stock and have run it up to 21psi. Made a world of difference at 18 and unbelievable at 21 just had too much knock retard so I put it back to 18 until I get my tune straight and the meth kit on.
Ps you haven't done a brake boost until you do a 15lb one wow that will sure put a big ole grin on your face.
I run 18psi on my stock and have run it up to 21psi. Made a world of difference at 18 and unbelievable at 21 just had too much knock retard so I put it back to 18 until I get my tune straight and the meth kit on.
Ps you haven't done a brake boost until you do a 15lb one wow that will sure put a big ole grin on your face.
killa66cam
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Re: Turbo
Listen, and do what the others have posted. But the next, gradual step up from the stock turbo is a 20g. They can be a pain to find though. Keep looking, and waiting...they do turn up.
Cam
Listen, and do what the others have posted. But the next, gradual step up from the stock turbo is a 20g. They can be a pain to find though. Keep looking, and waiting...they do turn up.
Cam
The Devils Own Chariot
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Re: Turbo
Have a plan for tuning before you make any changes. You will be disapointed with it unless you tune. Get a hold of some one or pay some one if you cant do it yourself.
My advice to you. If I could go back. Keep everything stock. Get some big injectors, fuel pump and change out your stock lines to alcohol rated. Get someone that knows how to tune these truck on E85 and you will be very happy. You are also maintaining the stock form of your truck and it will be worth more in the end because you didnt mod the crap out of it. You will also be free of detonation that these trucks flirt with so much. This is only my opinion.
Have a plan for tuning before you make any changes. You will be disapointed with it unless you tune. Get a hold of some one or pay some one if you cant do it yourself.
My advice to you. If I could go back. Keep everything stock. Get some big injectors, fuel pump and change out your stock lines to alcohol rated. Get someone that knows how to tune these truck on E85 and you will be very happy. You are also maintaining the stock form of your truck and it will be worth more in the end because you didnt mod the crap out of it. You will also be free of detonation that these trucks flirt with so much. This is only my opinion.
killa66cam
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Re: Turbo
What size injectors? I am wanting to do a few other additions than just stock. Looking at a 20g14cm2, L35's, and a 9/11 convertor with a 2800 stall. It can all be put back to stock though.
Cam
What size injectors? I am wanting to do a few other additions than just stock. Looking at a 20g14cm2, L35's, and a 9/11 convertor with a 2800 stall. It can all be put back to stock though.
Cam
The Devils Own Chariot
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Re: Turbo
Depends on what fuel you are running. If E85 I recomend 80# injectors. With pump gas I recomend 60# injectors (they should be high impedance injectors). Im not the expert but these should be good injector sizes for what you need.
Note: Have a tuning plan. Im just speaking from my experince. Dont think you are just going to learn how to tune a 500hp engine on your first try. It takes lots of time and patients. Nothing you bolt on matters if your tune sucks. Period!
Depends on what fuel you are running. If E85 I recomend 80# injectors. With pump gas I recomend 60# injectors (they should be high impedance injectors). Im not the expert but these should be good injector sizes for what you need.
Note: Have a tuning plan. Im just speaking from my experince. Dont think you are just going to learn how to tune a 500hp engine on your first try. It takes lots of time and patients. Nothing you bolt on matters if your tune sucks. Period!
killa66cam
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Re: Turbo
This basically goes against everything that I have seen on this forum for the past 2 years. I will definitely start with the stock stall convertor, but everything I have read on here has said you need a 2800 stall with the 20g14cm2.
I don't have any intentions of using E85 anytime soon, if ever...too hard to find around me. I am planning to start with a stock Ultimate chip, and then go to a 50# Ultimate. I have the stuff to go code59...but I know nothing of tuning really, so I am scared to do it myself. I may end up going to a VeloSYTY chip after the Ultimates.
Cam
This basically goes against everything that I have seen on this forum for the past 2 years. I will definitely start with the stock stall convertor, but everything I have read on here has said you need a 2800 stall with the 20g14cm2.
I don't have any intentions of using E85 anytime soon, if ever...too hard to find around me. I am planning to start with a stock Ultimate chip, and then go to a 50# Ultimate. I have the stuff to go code59...but I know nothing of tuning really, so I am scared to do it myself. I may end up going to a VeloSYTY chip after the Ultimates.
Cam
syclone 1092
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Re: Turbo
The key to 0966Sy making this work is the Forge wastegate.
http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=78765&highlight=forge
The key to 0966Sy making this work is the Forge wastegate.
http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=78765&highlight=forge
killa66cam
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Re: Turbo
So the 2800 stall 9/11 convertor that I just bought is unnecessary then?!? Good to know! I remember reading about the Forge wastegate before. I will have to go through that thread again to refresh myself.
Cam
So the 2800 stall 9/11 convertor that I just bought is unnecessary then?!? Good to know! I remember reading about the Forge wastegate before. I will have to go through that thread again to refresh myself.
Cam
It's just a six
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Re: Turbo
The only way I heard of running a 2800 stall converter & running slower is because they were blowing the tires off on the launch (less traction)
What like to see a datalog of your run w/a 2100 stall torque converter.
Curious,,, What does your truck run 0-60 ft, 0-60 mph 1/8 & 1/4 mile times?
I used to think my stock torque converter just stalled to 2100 when it actually brake stalls to 3025 rpm, only way I could see this was by datalogging & playing it back in super slow play.
BTW, I run a 12 CM housing & I know a 14 CM housing will be slower spooling.
The only way I heard of running a 2800 stall converter & running slower is because they were blowing the tires off on the launch (less traction)
What like to see a datalog of your run w/a 2100 stall torque converter.
Curious,,, What does your truck run 0-60 ft, 0-60 mph 1/8 & 1/4 mile times?
I used to think my stock torque converter just stalled to 2100 when it actually brake stalls to 3025 rpm, only way I could see this was by datalogging & playing it back in super slow play.
BTW, I run a 12 CM housing & I know a 14 CM housing will be slower spooling.
Storm Warning
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Re: Turbo
I run bowl-ported L35s, 20G/14cm, 60s and a 2800 stall and I too am curious as to how you can super-spool a 14cm exh with the stock converter. With the 2800 stall the 20G hits like a slug to the chest, I don't see how you can get that same kind of instant RPM/spool with the stock converter and this big of an exh housing, but I'm up to learn new things.
I run bowl-ported L35s, 20G/14cm, 60s and a 2800 stall and I too am curious as to how you can super-spool a 14cm exh with the stock converter. With the 2800 stall the 20G hits like a slug to the chest, I don't see how you can get that same kind of instant RPM/spool with the stock converter and this big of an exh housing, but I'm up to learn new things.
0966Sy
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I cut 1.75/1.80 60ft's on an atr chip stock injectors. Typically launch at 8psi building boost on the brake at 2200rpm. It's going to depend on your waste gate also to how your turbo is spooling. If have a factory gate it could begin to creep open before it needs to causing a slower spool. It's also how the duty cycle of the solenoid Is programmed in the tune. I've never used the stock
Solenoid to control boost, always spring pressure from the waste gate such as a pte setup.
You have to remember when you change your stall speed that your changing the power curve in your rpm range based on what stall you choose.
Of course a 2800 is going to hit hard on any turbo because your spooling it at a higher rpm. On the street I don't like that laggy feel of the 2800 with a punch of boost like you describe. Leaving on a launch closest to your engine peak torque rpm is going to get the best results as I've learned
Solenoid to control boost, always spring pressure from the waste gate such as a pte setup.
You have to remember when you change your stall speed that your changing the power curve in your rpm range based on what stall you choose.
Of course a 2800 is going to hit hard on any turbo because your spooling it at a higher rpm. On the street I don't like that laggy feel of the 2800 with a punch of boost like you describe. Leaving on a launch closest to your engine peak torque rpm is going to get the best results as I've learned
It's just a six
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Re: Turbo
Ok, how about your 1/8 ,1/4 mile times, MPH, got those, have you data logged your runs @ all?
Lets see some video of how this 20G turbo spools instantly w/a 14 cm housing & a stock torque converter.
I am sure most members here would like to see it also.
Anyone???
Ok, how about your 1/8 ,1/4 mile times, MPH, got those, have you data logged your runs @ all?
Lets see some video of how this 20G turbo spools instantly w/a 14 cm housing & a stock torque converter.
I am sure most members here would like to see it also.
Anyone???
killa66cam
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Re: Turbo
I wouldn't mind seeing something. Just wanting to know if I am really better off using the stock convertor over the 2800 stall, with a Forge wastegate? What if I ran both...the Forge wastegate, and a 2800 stall?
Cam
I wouldn't mind seeing something. Just wanting to know if I am really better off using the stock convertor over the 2800 stall, with a Forge wastegate? What if I ran both...the Forge wastegate, and a 2800 stall?
Cam